Category: Toners
Brand: Bobbi Brown
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boastfulChowder6
Super disappointed with this product. For one – it’s expensive!! I paid $55 New Zealand Dollars – def heading up towards the high end Setting/Finishing Sprays and thus I expected high quality! This is my first Finishing spray – and decided to ‘splurge’ on a good name brand spray. I find the fragrance pleasant – and as a Face Mist, I found it felt nice and hydrating on my skin. So – as a Face Mist only, I think I would use it for that only – especially long haul flights!! However – this was not why I purchased…… I wanted the setting spray. It’s shit. Every single time I use it, my make up will STILL transfer! I can even lightly touch my face, and my make up comes off on my hand. That’s a no – no!!!! It does an ok job keeping my makeup in place for a few hours – but if I am in heat, or build up even a slight swear – my make up slips and slides. Really disappointed with Bobbi Brown – who in New Zealand is considered a high end brand because it’s so expensive – so I expected MORE and was found to be severely lacking. Put it down and go find something better and probably cheaper too!!!!!
unhappyRice1
My main objection with this is the *price*.
It’s just fancy water with stuff in it! I’d guess it’s somewhere between 95-99.5% water/glycerin. Any fragrance is barely perceptible. Beautypedia’s claim that it is “quite fragrant, almost perfume-like” is a wild exaggeration, IMO. Further, what little scent exists dissipates almost immediately once applied.
It feels nice enough on the skin — soothing and mildly more hydrating than straight up water (I had a sample prepared and also tested in store multiple times) but is it worth $32? Heck no. I’d pay $8, maybe.
That it contains lavender oil is neither here nor there from my perspective. A certain overly influential skin guru has a hate on for lavender oil (gave this product a terrible rating on her own site) and other fragrant oils and seems to cherrypick studies that support her POV, while ignoring studies that contradict it.
She claims that it basically has no skincare benefits and states point blank that “[t]here is no research showing it has any benefit for skin”, even though numerous studies exist suggesting otherwise. Whether or not the studies are any good (another matter altogether!), it is untrue that *no* research exists demonstrating that lavender oil is beneficial as a skincare ingredient.
I myself fell for her advice regarding lavender oil for a long time, until I realized that it simply didn’t make sense to me. Have you ever personally seen someone who showed visible signs of aging or other long-term damage from using products containing lavender oil? Me neither!
It’s tough because she actually provides a fair amount of good, or at least seemingly credible, skincare information on the whole. To be fair, lots of people have benefited from her advice and products, and she’s done a pretty good job of calling out a lot of garbage in the cosmetics/skincare industry.
On closer examination, she (or probably more appropriately, “they”) appears to greatly overreach in terms of how the studies on lavender oil and other ingredients are interpreted (I’m going by the abstracts of the cited studies and more informed countervailing viewpoints than mine because I’m not gonna pay $30 a pop for the full results of said studies).
FYI, if you actually bother to click on any of the links that supposedly support a given claim, more often than not you’ll find that they (or at least the abstracts) simply don’t directly support said claim unless you’re willing to do a lot of mental gymnastics to convince yourself otherwise. But hey, she cites studies! She must be right! :/
A more honest approach would be to at least *acknowledge* the existence of the studies that contradict her opinion (there are actually a number that suggest that lavender oil may have a variety of beneficial properties for skin). Stuff isn’t black and white. That’s okay!
Don’t agree with the studies that don’t support your POV? Okay, at least explain why you think X-Y-Z study is flawed! (And also, maybe explain how you got from point A-to-B in terms of claiming, for example, that an in vitro study of the cytotoxicity of lavender oil has any bearing on real life and actual skin? *).
For anyone who’s sincerely interested in a different POV, this is a worthwhile starting point:
And no, I’m not some doofus hippie who favors “natural” products over “chemical” ones. Practically everything is made up of chemicals. I use the same mass produced stuff you probably do (though I venture to offbeat territories once in awhile for fun). I am truly neither here nor there in terms of lavender oil as an ingredient (I don’t seek it out but I also don’t avoid it); just annoyed when products are unfairly (IMO) maligned for containing it without appropriate context.
Gah. Sorry. Too long, I know.
* For kicks, I googled “Is [blank] cytotoxic?” Turns out lots of stuff is! Everything I could think of, at least in vitro.
amusedFish5
I’d like to comment on lavender oil.
I get a lot of my ingredient information from “A Consumer’s Dictionary of Cosmetic Ingredients” Seventh Edition, by Ruth Winter, M.S.
She has this to say about lavender oil: “It can cause allergic reactions and has been found to cause adverse skin reactions when the skin is exposed to sunlight.” (p. 324)
Different people, different sources of information.
scornfulGelding7
I recently discovered the world of face mists and I thought, why not try Bobbi Brown? I looked at the ingredients and asked myself what were they thinking. It contains a high amount of lavender oil. Lavender is known to cause cell death and damage skin in the long run. Research in medical journals has proven that you don’t always see or feel it happening for your skin to suffer damage, just like you don’t feel acne, clogged pores, or blackheads forming. I will stay far away this product and maybe Bobbi Brown will get her act together. I will not purchase.
adoringBagels6
I like the concept of a hydrating spray during and after long-haul flights and during summer. So far, I have used pure water sprays by La Roche Posay or Evian which are ok for basic, short-term hydration at a low cost. Furthermore, I have tried La Mer’s Mist which I didn’t think did more wonders to my skin than pure water. Therefore, I wasn’t a fan, especially given its very high price tag, see my separate review on the mist if interested.
The description of the Bobbi Brown spray sounds good and it comes in a very nice 3.4 oz/100ml natural spray atomizer, ideal to take on plane trips. I sprayed it on in the store and noticed a pretty strong lavender scent, then read the list of ingredients and also saw chamomile and other plant oils listed. While I otherwise enjoy perfume oils I am usually not a fan of any fragrant ingredients in facial cosmetics, because many essential oils are known to be photosensitizing. In addition, especially Chamomile and Calendula are potent allergens for many, so that is something to be mindful of. Overall, I had hoped for a few more potent straight-out hydrating ingredients like Hyaluronic Acid, but no such luck in the Bobbi Brown Face Mist. It is pleasant to use, but for $32 a bottle I expected more, so my search for a spray hydrator continues, I will try Clinique’s Moisture Surge Spray next. In the meantime I will be go back to using water sprays, and for a fraction of the price.
panickyDove5
The formulators for Bobbi Brown seem to have an obsession with essential oils. Lavender, Geranium, Grapefruit etc.They are one of the many Estee Lauder owned brands that contain essential oils as much as Aveda, Origins and Darphin. They use them plentifully, so much so that each and every product wafts an overwhelming, heady and only sometimes pleasant aroma. Don’t get me wrong essential oils smell divine. However fragrance isn’t skin care.
Beautifully packaged in a black spray bottle, the mist comes out soft, easy flowing, and is designed to refresh, set or be used before makeup application. In my opinion it is another needless product. Why couldn’t they have just updated their hydrating face tonic and put that in a spray bottle? No they decided to make another product. Something for the sake of “NEW”.
If you are already using the extra treatment lotion or the hydrating face tonic, you may prefer this simply for it’s spray bottle convenience. However, don’t get the feeling your missing out on anything spectacular because your not. The only positive attribute to this “face mist” is that it contains a high amount of green tea, chamomile and some cucumber, caffeine and panthenol. That’s about as far as it goes for ingredients that will actually deliver a difference.
INGREDIENTS: WATER\AQUA\EAU [] GLYCERIN [] BUTYLENE GLYCOL [] CAMELLIA SINENSIS (GREEN TEA) LEAF EXTRACT [] LAVANDULA ANGUSTIFOLIA (LAVENDER) OIL [] CHAMOMILLA RECUTITA (MATRICARIA) EXTRACT [] PELARGONIUM GRAVEOLENS (GERANIUM) FLOWER OIL [] CUCUMIS SATIVUS (CUCUMBER) FRUIT EXTRACT [] CAFFEINE [] PANTHENOL [] PPG-26-BUTETH-26 [] PEG-40 HYDROGENATED CASTOR OIL [] TOCOPHERYL ACETATE [] SODIUM DEHYDROACETATE [] DISODIUM EDTA [] LINALOOL [] CITRONELLOL [] PHENOXYETHANOL